| Thread Tools | Display Modes | 01-23-2017, 08:18 PM | #1 | Bus Nut Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Maryland / Boulder Posts: 347 Year: 1999 Coachwork: Thomas Built Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER Engine: CAT 3126b Rotella-Chugger Rated Cap: 72 | 11R22.5 vs. 295/75R22.5 tires Hi, So the tires on my bus are aging. They are old and the rears are almost at illegal tread. I came upon an opportunity for some free 11R22.5 tires off a dump truck from a construction company. I will check the date codes, but they said they are at most 3 years old with about a half inch of tread left. Not sure what brand. They may be recaps. Currently my drive tires are Goodyear G622RTD (retread i think?) and the fronts are G622RSD, low profile 295/75R22.5 size. After looking at this table: https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...bb_pdf/233.pdf I determined that the 11R22.5 tires are about 15mm narrower, and about 1.2 inches taller sidewall diameter. The taller sidewall will have the effect of gearing the bus up slightly, and making the speedo inaccurate (which it already is, I use my GPS for speed anyway). With the way this bus rides, I could use more sidewall, so that should not be a problem. Assuming the tires are good and recent, do I take this deal, or is there some reason I shouldn't? Thanks! ' + '' + google_ads[i].line2 + '' + google_ads[i].line3 + '' + '' +google_ads[i].visible_url + '';}} '' }if (google_ads[0].bidtype == "CPC") { /* insert this snippet for each ad call */google_adnum = google_adnum + google_ads.length;} document.write(s); return; }google_ad_client = 'ca-pub-7757781251671730';google_ad_channel = '7819400937';google_ad_output = 'js';google_max_num_ads = '6';google_ad_type = 'text';google_feedback = 'on';// --> | | |
01-29-2017, 09:23 AM | #2 | Mini-Skoolie Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 56 | The 11r is usually a much cheaper tyre. If it will fit without issue, same speed index and within the weight window. I'd say use the cheapest tyre for the job. The 11r usually has a better weight rating which will mean less pressure to carry the same weight. Giving a longer footprint and more sidewall flex. Which hurts mileage but gains traction. Less prone to breakage on severe corrugation too. Also means it'll sink into the campground fractionally less. The sidewalls on 11r can be two different ply ratings, the stiff ones can really hurt mileage if they're <90psi trying to inflate them to the right pressure for weight, if the front is very light. But ultimately it's your decision what to do with your bus. | | |
01-29-2017, 12:08 PM | #3 | Bus Nut Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Maryland / Boulder Posts: 347 Year: 1999 Coachwork: Thomas Built Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER Engine: CAT 3126b Rotella-Chugger Rated Cap: 72 | Awesome, thanks for the pointers. The way my bus rides, it could use more sidewall. I picked up 4 tires, for FREE yesterday. They all have about 1/2" of tread left, much more than I have currently. The tread patterns do not match, but I do not think that should be a problem. One is open shoulder and three are closed, I will see if I can trade the open shoulder one for a closed one at a tire shop, as the open shoulder one is almost new. Only issue now is steer tires - they are in decent shape and from 2011, so not too old, but they are the low profile ones, and I dont know if that RPM difference would cause a problem with the ABS wheel speed sensors. Thanks! | | |
01-29-2017, 10:41 PM | #4 | Mini-Skoolie Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 56 | I'd suggest having one tyre size all round. Keep it simple. The open shoulder will wear quickly on asphalt, won't grip well in the wet either. the closed pattern is similar to a on/off road steer tyre that bridgestone make. Don't skimp on steer tyres. | | |
01-30-2017, 06:30 AM | #5 | Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: hills of sw virginia Posts: 889 Year: 1996 Chassis: thomas Engine: 8.3 cummins Rated Cap: 11 window | Quote: Originally Posted by porkchopsandwiches Awesome, thanks for the pointers. The way my bus rides, it could use more sidewall. I picked up 4 tires, for FREE yesterday. They all have about 1/2" of tread left, much more than I have currently. The tread patterns do not match, but I do not think that should be a problem. One is open shoulder and three are closed, I will see if I can trade the open shoulder one for a closed one at a tire shop, as the open shoulder one is almost new. Only issue now is steer tires - they are in decent shape and from 2011, so not too old, but they are the low profile ones, and I dont know if that RPM difference would cause a problem with the ABS wheel speed sensors. Thanks! I that dry rot on the sidewall __________________ living in a bus down by the river. my build pics https://www.skoolie.net/forums/membe...albums942.html | | |
01-30-2017, 09:58 AM | #6 | Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 8,462 Year: 1946 Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton Engine: Cummins 4BT Rated Cap: 15 | Ya the carcass looks rough and splitting and they appear to be recaps. Do NOT run recaps on the steer wheels. | | |
01-30-2017, 02:07 PM | #7 | Bus Nut Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Maryland / Boulder Posts: 347 Year: 1999 Coachwork: Thomas Built Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER Engine: CAT 3126b Rotella-Chugger Rated Cap: 72 | Quote: Originally Posted by Tango Ya the carcass looks rough and splitting and they appear to be recaps. Do NOT run recaps on the steer wheels. That's the one retread tire dated 2011. The other three are virgin tires dated 2015. It looks more to me like curb rash than dry rot, but I'll have the shop check it out. These are all for the drive tires, getting new or good used non retread steers. Thanks! | | |
02-02-2017, 08:53 AM | #8 | Bus Nut Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: KANSAS CITY Posts: 751 | As a sidenote: I just returned from Costa Rica and i priced Chinese BESTRICH brand 11R-22.5 tires for $200.00 each. My wife says they aren't any good and only last a year or so. She might Be referring to all the tires from Bestrich. Chinese Hankook tires are used quite a bit around here and well liked. __________________ Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie. 1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles. | | |
02-02-2017, 09:13 AM | #9 | Bus Geek Join Date: May 2009 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 18,830 Year: 1991 Coachwork: Carpenter Chassis: International 3800 Engine: DTA360 / MT643 Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap | 'only last a year or two' is of course relative.. if they are on a semi thats running 100,000 miles / year thats about average for drive tires.... -Christopher | | |
02-02-2017, 09:39 AM | #10 | Mini-Skoolie Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 56 | The Chinese tyres are generally different sidewall construction usually 2 generations behind the name brands. They're also a different compound which runs fractionally hotter. They do narrow the pressure window between under inflated and comfortable but again not by much. The sidewalls will generate more heat than the name brands and cost a little bit of mileage. But unless you're doing big miles the extra burn isn't worth the extra tyre spend. | | |
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I determined that the 11R22. 5 tires are about 15mm narrower, and about 1.2 inches taller sidewall diameter. The taller sidewall will have the effect of gearing the bus up slightly, and making the speedo inaccurate (which it already is, I use my GPS for speed anyway).
Which of the following statements regarding a 295 75R22 5 and an 11R22 5 is correct? ›
The correct statement regarding the 295/75R22. 5 and the 11R22. 5 tires is that the 295/75R22. 5 has a larger tire width than the 11R22.
Is a 275 80R22 5 the same as a 11R22 5? ›
Yes, they are bigger in diameter(1.3") and width but so much more available. Just thought someone here will have some real world comparisons for me. I think they will fit and I cant think of any drawbacks to the increased wheel size other than loosing the low profile look which means little to me.
Can 295 75R22 5 and 275 80R22 5 be installed on the same axle? ›
At a minimum, the sizes must be identical across the axle, the exception being 295/75R22. 5 and the 275/80R22. 5 tires, which have the same basic diameter.
Do 295 75R22 5 and 11R22 5 have the same diameter? ›
The 295/75R22. 5 has a diameter of approximately 39.3 inches, while the 11R22. 5 has a diameter of about 41.7 inches. Therefore, they cannot be matched as duals, as they will not have the same rolling circumference.
What size is equivalent to 11R22 5? ›
A normal profile is stated as 11R22. 5 16PR H, which means the tire is about 11 inches wide and 9.5 inches high. If you are looking at a low-profile tire, it will be stated as 295/75R22.
Is 275 80 22.5 and 295 75 22.5 the same size? ›
They are nearly the exact same size tire and are both considered to be low profile 22.5 tires. The 295's are . 05" taller than the 275's which equates to about the size of a pencil point.
What does the 11 mean in 11R22 5? ›
For example, let's look at 11R22.5. In this example, the information includes: 11 = Section width in inches. R = Radial Tire. 22.5 = Rim diameter and rim type.
What tire pressure for 295 75R22 5? ›
For example, the popular 295/75R22. 5 Load Range “G” tire has a maximum load of 5,675 lbs. at 110 psi when run as a dual configuration.
What does 11R 22.5 mean on a tire? ›
The code 11R22. 5 means 11 = Section width in inches. R = Radial Tire. 22.5 = Rim diameter and rim type.
Recommended Load & Inflation
Tire Size Designation | Pattern | (Pressure Listed is the Minimum for the Load) |
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105 |
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11R22.5 | GDM635 | 2525 |
5565 |
2800 |
Do 295 75R22 5 and 275 80R22 5 have the same nominal diameter? ›
It is false that tire sizes 295/75R22. 5 and 275/80R22. 5 can be installed on the same axle or dual position, as they do not have the same nominal diameter. Matching tire sizes is crucial for vehicle safety and performance.
Is a 295 75R22 5 the same as a 275 80R22 5? ›
275/80R22. 5 and 295/75R22. 5 are pretty close to the same dimensions.
What is the conversion for 275 80R22 5? ›
275/80R22. 5 = 295/75R22.
Do semi steer tires have to match? ›
However, it's important to make sure that dual tires match. The two dual truck tires need to be the same size. If there is any variance, the smaller tire will have to work harder.
What does 11R mean in tires? ›
11 = Section width in inches. R = Radial Tire. 22.5 = Rim diameter and rim type. Rims with . 5 in the size indicate tubeless or drop center rims, while rim sizes that are whole numbers indicate multi-piece tube style rims.
How big is a 295 75R22 5 tire? ›
Plus Sizes
| 295/75-22.5 | 275/80-22.5 |
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Diameter inches (mm) | 39.92 (1014) | 39.82 (1011.5) |
Width inches (mm) | 11.61 (295) | 10.83 (275) |
Circum. inches (mm) | 125.42 (3185.57) | 125.11 (3177.72) |
Sidewall Height inches (mm) | 8.71 (221.25) | 8.66 (220) |
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What is the difference between semi truck tires and regular tires? ›
Commercial tires often have deeper and more aggressive tread patterns compared to regular tires. This helps provide better traction and grip on various surfaces, including gravel, mud, and snow, which are common in commercial environments.